I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. Based on 24 frets and the fretboard overhang I am leaning heavily toward an earlier Dean Edge 1 that has been modified with a three way switch instead of V/V/T. I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. 5 scale. 080 gap between the pickguard and the underside of the fretboard overhang. Yours looks similar, but hard to tell. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…There will be a fretboard overhang of 1. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. What you might be talking about is how the fret edge is rounded, or the beveled edge, it. It is usually referred to as a feature. However, he is talking about putting a 21 fret neck where there was a 22 fret neck before, so there may not have been an overhang on it because the guitar was produced with a 22 fret neck, and would likely have the bridge placed accordingly. I'm planning on ordering a 24. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. EDIT - oops, sorry, I didn't read properly and didn't realise the Pacifica had a 22 fret. It is unusual compared to other Cole's Eclipse examples I can see on the net in that it has a fretboard overhang from the 18th fret to the 22nd. The heal pocket measures 3 1/4 by 2 1/4 by 3/4 inches deep. Screw holes lined up pretty well. The device I have allows for the complete fretboard/neck area to be heated. . 75” nut width. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. Be careful to file the metal only, stopping just as the file comes in contact with the finish. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangMarty, my neck is 1" (25. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang 85K subscribers in the Luthier community. It is a USACG Mustang neck. I use a flat iron and a towel to keep excess heat from the soundboard. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. Mark all of the frets with your black marker again. Switching from a 21 to 22 fret neck usually requires no modification to the guitar. For the math-impaired: 1. There are also numerous distinctions between the guitars, including their scale length, pocket depth, and neck width. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. The fretboard overhang is the portion of the fretboard external of the strings: the measure from the external string to the edge of the fretboard. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. 5 - 4mm at the 12th fret. Equal: you specify an overhang for all four locations separately. 5 radius. simple, yet perfect for the song. Used – Excellent. 75" Scale conversion neck but I can't find anything about the size of the fretboard overhang, which could be an issue for me. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. But, on necks with 22 or less frets, the neck PU is placed on the octave harmonic. Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. However, he is talking about putting a 21 fret neck where there was a 22 fret neck before, so there may not have been an overhang on it because the guitar was produced with a 22 fret neck, and would likely have the bridge placed accordingly. On the router table, use a flush trim router bit with a ball bearing to remove the excess fretboard material. Here's the only Ebay cheapo that I found that was similar Nov 4, 2023 #29. Builder: Valenti Basses. If you like that position, it might work well. By: Search Advanced search…I have a customer who has a 24" scale guitar with a 21 fret neck installed, but he wants it to have a 25. Actually, any 24" Mustang neck will work with the Warmoth 7/8 body. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. pretty certain that they meant just a neck pocket wifth shim to have a standard neck fit. It has evidence of smoke damage, and repairs include: Neck reset (was set low on bass side), Replaced bridge plate, two spruce patches each on treble and bass side of X brace, 3 cleats to rear of sound hole, long rectangular patch underneath fretboard overhang, 5 repaired top cracks from bridge to back, two repaired top cracks on either side of. 118Squier P bass neck join Does the fret board go over the pick guard? Or is the pick guard fitted around it? Anyone have an answer to this? Really appreciate some shared knowledge. I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. Forgive me for being a pain, but I just bought a used Jackson neck and realized that I may have a slight problem with the project I'm working on. Messages. I didn't even think of that. or not. 375, at 24th fret is 2. With the overhang and the pickguard, it will be invisible. I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. Using these drawings, the outline of the fretboard, leaving a bit of an overhang for the zeroth fret, is extruded into a 6. Line up the two lines. Pull the 22nd fret, cut off the fretboard end through the fret slot and see if you like it on your guitar. Been looking to switch out the old Rosewood neck on my 2001 MiM standard Strat and this neck would do the trick nicely. 7mm) gap between the pickup ring and the end of. Seems the radius in the Fender pickguard was a little smaller than the control plate. Finally did some measuring last night and discovered that the neck pocket in the body is the correct depth (5/8"), but the distance between the FB overhang. There is insufficient adjustment at the bridge to compensate for the reduction of the 12th fret. I gave this one 22. The joint edges on my Gibson guitars look much like on your ES-175. Contact me if you want something specific, otherwise I'll give you a heel adjust spokewheel or hex nut rod. Actually never thought of the fact I was holding a guitar, it disappeared from my thoughts and I was immersed in the playing. Trying my best to make something usable. I got some router bite on this fretboard. Many say the old neck joint sounds better, including Mr. 375, at 24th fret is 2. Empty any old water out of the iron and add fresh water. Learn More. The fretboard overhang is very lazy bass building IMO. Regarding the bridge, the bridge designs you have listed will all have to be recessed into the body, or you can build some angle into your new neck heel to pitch the strings at a higher. 1. Aug 2, 2011. This guitar will be a surprise gift for a friend with a lot of personal meaning. I like to see about . Standard Neck Pocket Depth. 22 medium jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. deesonic Supporting Member. 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Since this part of the bass guitar will see a lot of wear, harder woods are used. Jun 20, 2008. Sand the entire length of the fretboard with the same motions, making sure to keep your radius even across the length of the frets. 75 is more comfortable by far. Widthwise, the neck is 56mm at the zero fret and about 67. On 24 fret necks it has to be moved back toward the bridge some (taking it off. Dec 18, 2014. 720 Mod. When I mentioned to the luthier about having him round it he said it wasn't necessary but would do it. . 625" to . If the neck thickness or the rout is different, you may have to make some adjustment to them. Fretboard overhang doesn't mean the bridge is placed differently on the body. 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . I’m by no means a Gretsch expert and was only posting my limited personal experience. The neck thickness is 21mm in the middle of the. Business, Economics, and Finance. Likewise, the Saddles need to be closer to the nut for shorter scale. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. the reason gibson style guitars have neck angle is because the birdge is higher, and since the bridge saddles are higher than the nut, the note made by the frist fret and the 13th fret would be different, basically the action would be higher towards the high end of the neck, and the action would be lower towards the nut. 22 polished and jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Saddle position of the e’ saddle should be set to allow travel in both directions for intonation. The overhang rests just on the top of the pickgaurd when the neck is screwed down tight. Hey @JACK G Merry Christmas! Yes, my SE serial CA has 22 frets and no skunk stripe. 0″ neck pocket by 3/8″ and end up with a pocket depth of 5/8″. Builder: Valenti Basses. Roasted maple neck with Rosewood fretboard- Modern C. How can I make a stratocaster with 24 frets without any fretboard overhang that, doesn't move the neck pickup? Am I simply answering my own question? Does No overhang mean you don't have to move the neck pickup? Because I. Sometimes it is a case of just an overhang for the extra frets, sometimes the heel moved and designed specificially for that neck. Our "720 Mod" lowers the floor of a standard neck pocket from . NO overhang 4. Another twist: FretFind 2D also allows you to set different overhang values for the "first" and "last" string and/or the nut and bridge. Aug 8, 2020. 22 polished and jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Joined Apr 29, 2003 Posts 2,637 Location Canada-Windsor-Ont. I have had this looked at by a couple of different repairmen who , like me, believe this is original and not a modification as , although the heel has had some previous repair, it has not been altered. My son and I are building a guitar for him for his High School senior project. "Epiphone" is an important detail here as they're gonna have a bolt-on neck where a standard. Messages 24,425. Beautiful maple 12 string warmoth neck with some nice Birdseye figuring on the fingerboard. It features a maple fretboard with abalone dots, bone nut, and high gloss headstock. Jun 21, 2016 #14 Twisted neck! For sure. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. Dec 18, 2014. Should I just cut that 0,5mm excess? The fretboard is already cutted to the size of the neck, fret slots + nut slots are already done. When your frets span multiple pages, you will need to tape them together before you cut the slots. )The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair: Good fretboard overhang?Fretboard Overhang (mm) Perpendicular Fret. bbarott Most Honored Senior Member. It will be less than 1/32" on each side by the 1st fret and progressively less as you go up the neck as you won't want to change the heel width. As a result, the fretboard will slightly overhang the sides of the neck heel in the upper fret areas. Compatibility Issues. This meant a complete redesign of the fretboard dimensions to allow for the proper Fretboard Overhang (distance. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. Set e’ saddle distance 3/8” – 7. . Although the neck has its final shape, the fretboard is slightly overhanging. The screws are going right through the body, flush with the backplate and bottom. As a plus,. 13. . So the fact that your 22-fret neck does not appear to have a headstock truss rod adjustment suggests it's not an overhang neck, and may. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. If the neck is 21 frets, with no overhang (assuming that the neck ends at fret 21) it will be 17. Jun 2, 2023. 3. Most 22-fret Fender necks have the 22nd fret on an overhang. This bass is great but the action gets quite high above the 10th fret. The neck has been reset to ensure. First of all. I use my large three-corner file (also called a cant saw file). Sep 2, 2019. I. Jun. The large file stays over the finish and doesn't damage it at all, but takes the fret ends down nicely. It would have a Fender style neck pocket, probably with a fretboard overhang. Media. 21 inch Fretboard. Finally did some measuring last night and discovered that the neck pocket in the body is the correct depth (5/8"), but the distance between the FB. I designed it to fit a Warmoth 24-3/4" scale conversion tiltback neck so that it should leave a minimal fretboard overhang on the body, and sufficient neck angle to meet an ABR-1 bridge. jazz Bass 74. You'd need a body designed for it. It is not possible to fit a neck on a guitar without it. If they do, then the Pro probably just has a shorter fretboard. There are four input modes for overhang. Using an overhang also means replacement parts remain compatible, e. Moving chords around is another good way to get to know the fretboard. 83" at the first fret , . 720". Once installation is complete, simply re-intonate your guitar to match the new scale. Only minimal adjustment is needed as in any neck change. Regular length neck screws would go through fretboard. The neck was somehwere in the region of $250 if I recall, then I had a jet black ebony board and the fretboard overhang is squared off, as opposed to the usual Warmoth where it is rounded. It can be done by hand with a sharp wood chisel. Neither seem to make much difference after a moment. Originally posted by MakeAJazzNoiseHere View Post. It's designed for those who are going without a pickguard and don't want a visible gap under the fretboard overhang. 00. It should look a bit like this:. Enter total playing length of string: Enter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter number of frets to calculate:For overhang past the fretboard, I run a large file up and down the fretboard edge. Messages 1,565. 125" in either sides. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. CryptoThe Harmony came to me almost unplayable. Hello, I have a 2007 Ash Lite Telecaster that I recently got a new neck for. First guitar build, first neck build. Like this:. Tweedledee. The new Epiphone Les Paul SL, however, ups the. Most conversion necks are in fact 24. Purple Drink finish, with translucent black burst (*special request to have the burst stop at the flat top) 3-piece body layer option. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. Also, the heel looks long enough that if I cut. Is it just so that there isn't a gap under the fretboard overhang if you have a 22 fret board and no scratchplate? Forums. I'm not sure what's going on with the overhang but I did place the centerline of the fretboard on the centerline of the guitar at the heel block and the center of the truss rod. If you are doing anything but a traditional neck pup check your fretboard for clearance when you determine how much past the neck it can be. And, he demonstrates how he deals with the fretboard overhang of the tenon to ensure a uniform route. SN-32569 . And I thought about providing a measurement from the end of the fretboard, but. Perhaps I am unique but I consider easy access to electronics on my Strat a. M. Has anyone built this kit? And could someone measure the distance from the bottom of the fretboard overhang and the guitar body? Mine seems extreme. I think Robert has the right idea. There is no overhang on the opposite side. FretFind. String width at the nut looks to be about 5" (127mm) String width at bridge looks to be about 180mm (7. Hey folks, got a chance to land a nice deal on a 2019 MiM players Strat Pao Ferro neck. 30. Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were originally designed for 22 frets. The top of the guitar under the fretboard overhang was sunk in a lot too, so I made a bolster from a dowel and glued that in. I wouldn't be in a rush to move the bridge or neck. Dec 25, 2015 #5. I can also clearly see there. If there is not gap, there is the potential that the very bottom of the fretboard will contact the pickguard and in some cases, that pressure can cause the fretboard at that position to "ski ramp" up and cause all kinds of issues with fret. As on the 22-fret Am Pro jazzmaster, Am Performer, and Player. . I guess you could also deepen the neck pocket area of the pickguard to remove the part that would fit under the extension if you really wanted to. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. A fret leveling file is also good for this job; I just happen to prefer the finer cut of. . I want to put a MIA Telecaster neck on the Cabronita body. The Marketplace; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . I ran into a snag with the control plate. . Staten Island NYC. Seems the radius in the Fender pickguard was a little smaller than the control plate. The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. - Mounting screws would poke into the control cavity. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. Vibrato bridges. The old neck had bad fret-wear and I never really fell in love with it. Though it has the same number of frets, fret 22 is on a fretboard overhang. Just got this 2nd hand omen 7, was a bargain, but is it normal for there to be a gap between the fretboard and body? Or have i been had? ReplyThat overhang of the the rosewood to allow for a 22nd fret also allows enough space for the pickguard to slide under it. you enter a single value and the overhang will be. There are four input modes for overhang. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. Ontario County. Joined Jan 4, 2021 Posts 74 Age 48 Location Indiana. I've been to Warmoth's site. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance,. It does not need to be much but some. Mildew Jones. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. fingerboard with 22 frets, smooth and high density. The former offers possibilities, the latter does not. Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. Either method works. The filed bits to fit in the pocket would sit below this overhang. I have seen where a notch has been cut out for the spoke in. Also vintage tinted pup covers and volume and tone knobs, string trees and misc screws! Keeping the original pups for the. bettyseldest said: On the stock telecaster neck the 22nd fret sits on the fretboard overhang, so the neck sits in the same pocket as a 21 fret neck. Measurements are. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…Having to remove the neck to get the scratchplate off is a bloody nuisance Why can't they just make the neck as long as the fretboard?B. I just sanded the underside of the fretboard overhang until it cleared the pickguard when the neck is fully bolted down. . My Warmoth J pickguard is held in place just by the fretboard overhang, the control plate and the neck PU. Jun 13, 2020 #18 Slot and drill/install fret markers Radius sand taper (sometimes I taper first)The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. That’s quite different than a bridge pickup, I consider. Paper, sand paper, thin metal sheet, carton…. So, we have a 1. If it does this with no screws there are limited reasons it could be happening. The customer opted for a 54mm nut, which is a little wider than a standard classical guitar (52mm). Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were. This is from a 2000-2001 catalog. Sasebo Maps and TyBo. Anyway, I dig the J bass he played with both bands, but since I'm a 5 string junkie, I decided I want to make a MS sig 5. if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. 2) I moved the vibrato unit back to the Jazzmaster positionLook at the fretboard overhang. The serial is stamped on the back of the neck however. Business, Economics, and Finance. 125" (3. Make template of pocket, scribe to bottom of neck -keeping in mind range where the scale length works w/saddle adjustments. When the neck and body are assembled, there is a small space between then end of the fretboard (the last fret near the body). If the fretboard overhang was tight, you'd risk cracking a stiff pickguard, or possibly even break off that last fret if you pulled up too hard, and tightening the neck to the body can actually put stress here. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. The fretboard overhang on the neck will cover the gap that the neck leaves. . 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . IOW, if you conventionally and properly lay out a fanned fretboard by the two outer. I'm guessing that, the fretboard overhangs a bit? Here's a photo from a Stu-Mac kit. There is a 3/16" (4. 81" at the first fret , . This even took into account the fretboard overhangs. After playing Fender Strats for many years I bought my first Warmoth Strat build and ordered the "standard" 22 fret pro neck. A 1/8" (3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. Some of the necks I see have a fretboard overhang, some don't. Probably. 481” maximum heel width, 3. Nov 30, 2005 Southern Ontario. Because an overhang doesn't allow clear access to a heel truss rod nut. Tele specsI have a 2011 Fender Cabronita MIA body with TV Jones T Armond’s, and Bigsby. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. bettyseldest said: On the stock telecaster neck the 22nd fret sits on the fretboard overhang, so the neck sits in the same pocket as a 21 fret neck. It really is a stunning piece of work - the pics don't. A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. They make a true 24 fret neck with 25-1/2" scale. By far the most common pickguard thicknesses are either . The overhang doesnt bother me visually, and its nice to have a couple more frets. Fretboard Overhang. I've gone from not knowing what I was playing (you know; those days before the internet and I just bought my JV Squier Strat because I wanted 'A Strat'). fretboard overhang = 3 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. . Place 120 grit 3M sticky sandpaper across the entire length of the straight bar now. Finally, I never saw an aesthetically perfect finish below the fretboard overhang of a Gibson archtop. I didn't even think of that. Buy On Amazon. Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were originally designed for 22 frets. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. 050”, 0. String width at the nut looks to be about 5" (127mm) String width at bridge looks to be about 180mm (7. Handy that the guard screws come out. We combine modern technology with classical techniques to produce state of the art instruments. 14. That solves the problem without a shim. For the math-impaired: 1. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Dual action truss rod adjustment at the headstock &10mm peg holes for modern tuners. Bolts on the same and intonates properly. necessary to add 1 or 2 strings in order to get a low tunning sound character and increasing the number of frets on the fretboard to 30 frets, the more new. 25,683. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. Medium Jumbo Wide (6150)On a 50's 175 this distance was around 9/16", while vintage Guilds and Epi archtops are closer to 1/2" or slightly less. For example, as depicted in bar 1 of Example 4, take an open-A chord, move the shape up one fret for a B b chord, one more fret for a B chord, and so on. I'm not sure what is typical for Reverend guitars, but I don't think it is "abnormal" or something to be concerned about. About This Listing. #1. Even changing only the fretboard on your guitar neck is possible. A normal Jazzmaster his rounded, like a Strat's. Like i said most Ebay cheapos that i saw had Fender shaped headstocks and don't come with tuners and none had the fretboard overhang. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Switching from a 20 to 21 fret neck usually requires no modification to the bass. Switching from a 20 to. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. . I didn't. 1) I based it around a Jazzmaster neck pocket position, but with the Jaguar's neck pickup positioned relative to the end of the fretboard-overhang on a 22-fret neck, so the whole body sits about a half-inch 'lower' than the FCS interpretation. Feb 27, 2014 #25 monty said: Thanks Rick but a quick question. . I also had to move the bridge forward slightly to accomodate the new scale. The overhang does not affect playability in any way. The overhang does not affect playability in any way. (in fact it's the same on a strat, the pickguard extends there as well, so the 22nd fret alos overhangs on the pickguard as well. . However, some did have neck-break angle issues and the gap under the end of the fretboard overhang was never a constant. A normal tele bridge should accommodate that. Your example doesn't look well-crafted, but I don't know if that's typical for Epiphone. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. 35mm (0.